Looking for my HomePod minis in Eve or Nanoleaf Thread Network view

While my HomePod minis say they have Thread radios in them, does anyone know why the two apps I have that show what’s in your Thread network don’t show the minis as border routers?

I see only my three Nanoleaf Essentials bulbs. Ok, only two show connected at the moment, but I am wondering why the HomePod minis don’t show up there. Any ideas?